iPhone, iPad creation and customer surveys, Samsung copying skills and iPhone 5 design secrecy

Publish date: 2023-05-14

In what follows we’re going to look at what both Apple and Samsung asked Shiller, as reported by The Verge, as his responses are quite revealing for the trial.

Apple examination

Apple attorney Harold McElhinny started asking Shiller about the way the iPhone and iPad came to be. The executive offered various details on what it took to create the iPhone and the iPad, both great gambles for the company. He explained differences between models, what differentiates them, and referred to elements and patents that Apple claims are infringed by Samsung’s products. He even described how a multitouch is supposed to work.

iPhone and iPad creation

He explained that the iPhone project came after the iPad, but Apple shifted attention to the iPhone when realizing its priorities. Here are some of his answers:

Market surveys

While Apple is famous for saying that the company does not conduct surveys when creating new products, it appears that the Shiller’s market research team “will do surveys of customers” from time to time. And here we’re talking about the surveys that Apple wanted to be thrown out of the trial, but Samsung convinced the judge they were relevant for the case.

Again, the best way to look at the story is to follow some of the most important quotes from Shiller:

According to these studies, 85% of surveyed customers purchasing the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 said that the look and design was important or very important.

Advertising the iPhone and iPad

Apple’s counsel also asked Shiller to describe Apple’s iPhone and iPad ads. The jurors will also be able to watch all the iPhone and iPad ads since the launch of each product until present day, something Samsung has tried to object but was overruled. According to Shiller, the concept behind Apple’s advertising campaigns is calling the “product as hero” of the ads. Here are some relevant quotes:

Shiller also revealed how much the company spends during each fiscal year on ads – Apple’s fiscal year ends in September:

Samsung copying the iPhone, iPad

Naturally, one of the points Apple’s counsel tried to make from the beginning is that Samsung copied with its Galaxy S products the iPhone and iPad. And Shiller was not shy to reveal his strong opinions on the matter – that Samsung had effectively copied the look and feel of both the iPhone and iPad with its Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab products, and other devices from these families of Android smartphones and tablets. Here are some quotes:

Samsung cross-examination

When McElhinny finished Apple’s interrogation of the witness, Samsung moved in to cross-examine Shiller and to try to prove that Apple’s devices are not entirely original, as they do use existing technology.

Who came up with the touchscreen first?

One example given by Charles Verhoeven, Samsung’s attorney, was an email exchange inside Apple that discussed the fact that the LG Prada, a phone that preceded the iPhone, actually sported a full touchscreen (but it’s worth remembering that it did not run Android). An email from Steve Sinclair, referring to the iPhone and LG Prada said:

It’s tough to approach this with the criteria being ‘first.’ I don’t know how many things we can come up with that you could legitimately claim we did first.

Samsung also tried to make a different point during examination, that iPhones and Samsung phones are “segregated” in carrier stores in such a manner that no confusion can be made between Apple’s and Samsung’s products, but Shiller responded that confusion exists for the public when marketing the products.

Infuse 4G confuses Samsung lawyers too

But not everything went well for Samsung, as its counsel managed to confuse it’s client’s phones when showing them to Shiller. Apple’s executive was handed a Samsung Continuum first, and then he was given what Verhoeven believed it was an Infuse 4G, but it was actually a different device. This isn’t the first time Samsung’s lawyer crews aren’t able to properly recognize one of the products made by their client – a while ago a Samsung attorney was not able to tell the iPad and Galaxy Tab 10.1 apart from 10 feet away when directly asked by Judge Koh.

Shiller said that the phones that were shown to him were confusing. Furthermore, he added:

Samsung has ripped off a number of our design elements and yes I do believe some customers could be confused.

Samsung then tried to pull a fast one by asking Shiller to explain one of the surveys we mentioned before, in which only 1 percent of respondents revealed that the color or design of the iPhone would affect their buying decision. But the attempt was then deflected by Apple’s counsel. A later Apple redirect allowed Shiller to explain that in the survey Samsung quoted, Apple asked buyers what factor in addition to price would be most important for them when buy the product.

iPhone 5 design

Samsung tried to convince Shiller to reveal whether the iPhone 5 – which is what customers and tech blogs erroneously refer to when talking about Apple’s sixth-generation iPhone – would come with a different design. Even if the Judge allowed the question, Shiller choose not to answer it:

I prefer not to tell confidential information about future products.

Apple rebuttal

McElhinny returned to clarify the survey Samsung referred too (explained above) but also to have Shiller reveal the relationship between the iPhone design and Apple brand. Here’s what the VP answered:

We’ll be back with tidbits and revelations from Apples Senior Vice President on iOS Software Scott Forstall, who took the witness stand after Shiller.

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